Insights on Privacy with Ron De Jesus, the Industry’s First Field Chief Privacy Officer
Summary
Key Insights
1. Big Law Trains Precision; Startups Need Judgment
Ron explains that many lawyers struggle in-house because they cling to correctness instead of outcomes.
Startups don’t reward the perfect memo — they reward the lawyer who can:
decide quickly,
move with incomplete information,
unblock teams,
and iterate along the way.
The mindset shift is essential: certainty is a luxury startups can’t afford.
2. Legal Influence Comes From Clarity, Not Authority
When legal communicates in dense analysis, teams tune out.
Ron emphasizes boiling decisions down to:
what’s happening,
what matters,
what the business can do next.
Being simple, direct, and actionable is what earns repeat trust.
3. Prioritization Isn’t a Task — It’s a Strategy
Workrise, like many scaling companies, operates in urgent cycles.
Ron avoids burnout and chaos by using a ruthless prioritization framework:
What is blocking revenue?
What is creating risk today vs. theoretical future risk?
What is reversible vs. irreversible?
Who owns the decision?
This allows legal to focus where leverage is highest.
4. Great In-House Work Requires Saying “Yes, If…”
Founders and operators hate hearing “no.”
Ron describes legal’s job as converting hard problems into conditional paths:
“Yes, if we add this control.”
“Yes, if we update this workflow.”
“Yes, if product can support X.”
Legal becomes a partner that shapes solutions instead of stopping momentum.
5. You Can’t Scale Legal Without Trust
Ron’s hiring philosophy:
curious > credentialed
collaborative > brilliant
adaptable > perfect
He prioritizes team members who can handle ambiguity, work directly with operators, and keep a calm centre during chaos.
6. Operational Context Is Non-Negotiable
At Workrise, operations happen in the field — not in a boardroom.
Ron spends time understanding how teams actually work.
This context helps legal design processes the business will embrace, not ignore.
7. In High-Growth Companies, The GC Is Also a Change Leader
Ron highlights how legal teams quietly steer cultural norms — documentation, accountability, decision hygiene, cross-functional alignment, and operating rhythm.
Legal isn’t just compliance — it’s infrastructure.
8. Closing Insight:
The modern GC isn’t defined by caution — but by clarity, speed, and judgement.
Ron’s operating model is simple: make progress, reduce friction, and help the business move safely, not slowly.
In this podcast, we cover
0:00 Introduction
1:52 What is a Field Chief Privacy Officer?
7:16 Producing a creative video web series at Transcend
12:43 Experimenting with video content as a freelance privacy consultant
16:38 Coming into a role at a company dealing with privacy complaints
20:05 Managing privacy-related communications issues
23:04 Navigating a career break after alleging wrongful termination
25:56 Thinking about new consent frameworks in the privacy industry
29:17 How did you get your start in privacy?
35:33 What is the future of the CPO role?
38:05 Advice to young people who want to work in privacy
41:52 Rapid-fire questions
43:25 Book Recommendations
44:45 What you wish you’d known as a young privacy professional
































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