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Episode 18

Defining Ethical Use & Dealing with Law Enforcement: Mark Kahn, Partner and Head of Legal/Tech at Protégé Search

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Episode 18

Defining Ethical Use & Dealing with Law Enforcement: Mark Kahn, Partner and Head of Legal/Tech at Protégé Search

Key Insights

1. Leverage "Nontraditional" Backgrounds as a Specialist Edge.

Kahn’s engineering degree allowed him to bridge the gap between technical teams and legal requirements. He advises lawyers to find where their specific domain knowledge (like computer science) can add unique value, making them "unicorns" in the eyes of recruiters.

2. Acknowledge and Address Burnout Before it Becomes Toxic.

Kahn describes a "downhill spiral" at WhatsApp where high-stakes regulatory pressure led to performance issues and toxic team dynamics. He emphasizes that taking a sabbatical is not a career-ender but a necessary "reset" that allows for a more successful re-entry into a role that truly resonates.

3. Use Executive Coaches to Break Leadership Patterns.

After recognizing his struggles at WhatsApp, Kahn proactively requested an executive coach when joining Segment. Working with a coach helped him process past failures and develop principles for building a more effective, supportive legal team.

4. Recruiters Find People for Jobs, Not Jobs for People. A common misconception is that recruiters act as personal agents for job seekers. Most executive recruiters are "retained," meaning the company is the client. To be successful, candidates should be on the radar of multiple firms to ensure they see a non-overlapping set of opportunities.

5. Ethical Use is the Next Frontier of Tech Governance. Moving beyond simple "Acceptable Use Policies," companies are now grappling with who their customers are and how they use products. Establishing a framework for these gray areas ensures consistency in high-stakes decisions, like Twilio’s choice to terminate service for Parlor.

6. Closing Insight

Your career is not a linear ladder; it’s a series of "iterations toward your next best self". By embracing the "noses in, fingers out" mindset of a strategic advisor, you can transition from the day-to-day grind to a high-impact executive or recruiter role that values your hard-won battle scars.

In this podcast, we cover

0:00 Introduction
1:38 Starting your career in product with your dream organization
7:21 Working your way up the corporate food chain to Whatsapp
14:31 How Whatsapp differed from his expectations
21:22 Knowing when to step back from a stressful role and leave
27:53 Taking time off and negotiating a role at Segment
33:54 Working with an executive coach
34:54 The Segment/Twilio acquisition and carving out a new role for “VP of Ethical Use
43:33 Stepping away from law into exec recruiter role
46:19 Demystifying the job seeking experience
49:47 “Designing Your Life” and advice to his younger self

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