Introduction: 0:00

• Matt Veale, European patent attorney and UPC at PatSnap, joins the podcast.
• Introducing PatSnap, which helps IP and R&D teams collaborate.
• Building a career in patent law.

‍What inspired Matt to be a lawyer: 1:48

• On studying computer science.
• Combining a passion for tech with a passion for the law.
• Working as a computer consultant before law school.
• Having a practical understanding of how tech works

What does intellectual property law mean?: 3:40

• Matt on IP as the most important thing in the world.
• Includes trade secrets, know-how, and data processing.

Starting your legal career at the UK Intellectual Property Office: 5:11

• On receiving great legal training as an examiner.
• The difference between US and UK patent offices.
• Enabling the future through IP.

Tips for people filing their first patent: 6:42

• Matt on how to convince examiners to approve your patent.
• Emphasizing communication.
• Differences between international jurisdictions.

Interesting patent applications Matt has seen: 8:47

• Matt on the first patent he approved.

Tips for GCs who inherit corporate patents: 9:39

• Matt on developing a data-driven patent strategy.
• Incentivizing employees for sharing innovations.
• Issues with owning your own patent.

Looking for outside patent counsel: 11:55

• On the limitations of the GC role.
• The shrinking external counsel field.

Patent analytics at PatSnap: 13:44

• On the importance of good data.
• Bridging the gap between IP lawyers and R&D.
• Innovating on the way claims are written.

The future of IP law: 16:38

• Matt on IP lawyers working in other fields.
• The effects of AI on IP law.
• Understanding how each AI tool works.
• Using AI to automate diligence and draft text.

AI as a tool for patent lawyers: 20:55

• On using AI for low-risk work.
• Weighing liability.
• Patent examiners using AI.
• Whether patent jobs are safe in the future.

Contacting Matt: 25:23

• Reach out to Matt on LinkedIn here.

Rapid-fire questions: 25:37

• Matt’s favorite part of the day-to-day.
• Professional pet peeves.

Book recommendations: 26:46

• The Daily Stoic by Ryan Holiday.

What Matt wishes he knew as a young lawyer: 27:17

• Matt on moving forward.
• Relying on friends and family.