Episode 41

Building Legal Ops at Google: DeAnna Papedis, ​​Head of Legal Contracts & Operations, Google

Episode summary

Introduction: 0:00

  • Introducing DeAnna Papedis, head of legal contract & product program management & operations at Google.
  • Joining Google as an early hire in the mid-2000s.
  • Relying on your network to recognize your strengths during a monthslong interview process.
  • Shifting your career from working in law firms to tech.

Transitioning from contracts manager into legal ops: 4:55

  • Building a large team of legal assistants before the term “legal ops” came into use.
  • Choosing a side in the emergent separation between legal work and operations. 
  • Establishing and reiterating the value of legal ops to lawyers.
  • Comparing legal ops to business operations.

Growing legal ops within Google: 8:56

  • Navigating the enormous scale of the organization.
  • Working within an embedded team.
  • Hiring the best talent to your legal ops team.

Managing a legal ops team: 11:44

  • Relying on empathy to lead your management decisions.
  • Information sharing with with a focus on flexibility and business priorities.

Attending CLOC from the beginning: 13:40

  • Getting excited about a conference that offers relevant content and great community to legal ops professionals.
  • Recommending the Legal Operators community in addition to CLOC.

Imagining the future of legal ops: 16:24

  • Discussing the potential of AI to transform the legal ops role.
  • Recognizing the importance of people in harnessing AI tools while maintaining a commitment to accuracy.

Book recommendations: 19:11

  • The Nightingale by Kristin Hannah

What you wish you’d known as a young lawyer: 20:00

  • Prioritizing the big picture over getting too far into the weeds.
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Tyler Finn
Head of Community & Growth, SpotDraft
DeAnna Papedis
​​Head of Legal Contract & Product Program Management & Operations, Google

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