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Episode 11

From NASA to HR Tech: Evan Ferl, Chief Strategy Officer & GC, Bambee

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Episode 11

From NASA to HR Tech: Evan Ferl, Chief Strategy Officer & GC, Bambee

Key Insights

1. Titles are Secondary to Neurons.

Ferl encourages lawyers to ignore flashy titles early in their careers. He took a "Contracts Attorney" role at a time when peers were gunning for "AGC" titles because the work—managing five acquisitions and a shift to the cloud—offered significantly more mental stimulation and growth.

2. The "Swiss Army Knife" Strategy for Career Growth.

To move beyond legal, you must proactively volunteer for "thankless work" that others avoid. By handling M&A integration, IP portfolios, and operational gaps, Ferl built a reputation as a business operator who happens to be an attorney, making the transition to Chief Strategy Officer seamless.

3. Skin in the Game Drives Learning.

While you can teach yourself finance via YouTube, Ferl argues that an MBA provides a structured accountability that "do-it-yourself" learning lacks. Paying the tuition bill and having a structured curriculum forced him to master the "language of the business" (accounting, math, and finance) required for C-suite influence.

4. Lean into the Discomfort of Being Wrong.

Transitioning from a background actor to a key decision-maker requires vocalizing opinions even when you aren't 100% sure. Ferl notes that the people who get things done are those who are "outspoken in the right way" and willing to have their minds changed by the CEO.

5. Perfection is Not the Point of Creativity.

Whether writing a children's book or a legal provision, Ferl advocates for "shipping it." Borrowing from his days in music and stand-up, he emphasizes that 99.9% of the audience won't notice minor errors; the value lies in the organic, creative act of doing the work, not in achieving flawless execution.


6. Closing Insight

Your professional comfort zone is where learning stops. Leverage your current role to take calculated risks that promise exponential experience, enabling you to eventually trade the stability of a title for the flexibility and control of an entrepreneurial career.

In this podcast, we cover

0:00 Introduction
02:29 Finding your passion working in legal
07:16 Starting his career at NASA with a cold email
13:08 Exploring work at big and small companies
16:39 Expanding beyond legal
22:43 Approaching strategy and corporate development from a legal perspective at Poshmark
28:15 Finding ways to activate creativity
31:03 Transitioning into a strategy role at Bambee
34:14 Identifying the inflection point to begin a new venture
38:42 Launching the Neatworking newsletter
45:00 Improving your writing practice
49:04 Advice for younger lawyers

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